Deal dispute agains't SonicRefs for over 15 000$ in unpaid work

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Wtf is this, another AI reply 

Clearly youre the one arguing semantics with your unclear bulleting and inability to explain anything coherently 

Following your account ban, every order i removed you from had already been delayed by you prior to the bans

You reached a certain point where you were basically delaying all your orders. I wasnt gonna risk having over 50 big orders failing or the customer pulling out due to your bullshit

The work you did prior to your replacement and the account bans, was nothing more than lazily started orders. if you WERE active on these orders and actually WERE providing frequent updates for them then i wouldnt have replaced you, at least not without reluctance 

And in response to:

"You contradict yourself too:

    “If completed, I would add you back or notify you”
    “It’s my choice whether I add you back”"

Im not contradicting myself at all actually because im referencing different scenarios here

For any order that was completed, and the customer added me back to the order group, effectively notifying me of the completion of said order, then i would have added you back. but again, this didnt happen

And the second retarded bullet chatgpt gave you, where i said:

“It’s my choice whether I add you back”

Here i was referring to your assigned orders, following your abandoning of all your assigned orders (NONE BEING COMPLETED)

You didnt even take the time to read what im posting on this thread, so chatgpt is messing up on your behalf. you think you just called out "a contradiction" when in reality i was referring to 2 separate, distinct points

Another point you just made which also makes 0 sense: 

"The proof is in tickets I was part of, that you controlled, and I wasn’t re-added to. Then you say “no proof.”"

So based on what you just said:

- I wasnt removed from the order group - > only you were removed - > i decided to replace you on that order to take advantage of your already completed work

But both of us got banned, how would i stay in the order, and then "control the process" by keeping you "locked out"? the series of events, again, makes 0 sense 

Vague terms are being thrown around left and right by you, and most of what youre saying doesnt make sense for shit. what are we even reading here...

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Wtf is this, another AI reply 

Clearly youre the one arguing semantics with your unclear bulleting and inability to explain anything coherently 

Following your account ban, every order i removed you from had already been delayed by you prior to the bans

You reached a certain point where you were basically delaying all your orders. I wasnt gonna risk having over 50 big orders failing or the customer pulling out due to your bullshit

The work you did prior to your replacement and the account bans, was nothing more than lazily started orders. if you WERE active on these orders and actually WERE providing frequent updates for them then i wouldnt have replaced you, at least not without reluctance 

And in response to:

"You contradict yourself too:

    “If completed, I would add you back or notify you”
    “It’s my choice whether I add you back”"

Im not contradicting myself at all actually because im referencing different scenarios here

For any order that was completed, and the customer added me back to the order group, effectively notifying me of the completion of said order, then i would have added you back. but again, this didnt happen

And the second retarded bullet chatgpt gave you, where i said:

“It’s my choice whether I add you back”

Here i was referring to your assigned orders, following your abandoning of all your assigned orders (NONE BEING COMPLETED)

You didnt even take the time to read what im posting on this thread, so chatgpt is messing up on your behalf. you think you just called out "a contradiction" when in reality i was referring to 2 separate, distinct points

Another point you just made which also makes 0 sense: 

"The proof is in tickets I was part of, that you controlled, and I wasn’t re-added to. Then you say “no proof.”"

So based on what you just said:

- I wasnt removed from the order group - > only you were removed - > i decided to replace you on that order to take advantage of your already completed work

But both of us got banned, how would i stay in the order, and then "control the process" by keeping you "locked out"? the series of events, again, makes 0 sense 

Vague terms are being thrown around left and right by you, and most of what youre saying doesnt make sense for shit. what are we even reading here...

Work was done → bans happened → no proper follow-up/re-add → no reconciliation → no payment
Now you’re labeling everything as “unfinished” to avoid paying.
That’s the issue.

@Alex @Liars There's no point in him and I to keep going back and forth. Both of you were made aware of the situation, you have access to the whole chat conversation that was both uploaded here and sent to both of you on Telegram. Do the right thing and have him pay me for my work. Let's not have another situation where he gets away with dodging responsibility. This has been a common theme with him, two of his "partner" have exited directly under his name. He could have added me back to those tickets after my account was banned but he decided to not do it and he hasn't paid me for them. 

@SonicRefs do yourself a favor and wait for the staff to reply, you keep making up scenario that makes no sense instead of addressing the issue that is the fact that you didn't add me back to those tickets after the ban so I could get paid. I wasn't paid. This is the issue.

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- Orders delayed to oblivion by you - > both of our accounts got banned  - > continued delay on your behalf across all orders - > your replacement on all pending orders (not the completed ones)

Thats the corrected series of events 

@Alex & @Liars i believe that ive explained my side thoroughly. i really tried my best to make it as clear as possible as opposed to diverting attention to irrelevant noise

This person registered a cracked.ax account and opened a report just now, right after i fell under pressure coming from another open dispute i have against me (which i am actively resolving by refunding the customer)

To further highlight this person's weak basis for opening this $15k scam report against me, is him waiting for this perfect opportunity almost a year later

While there is no rule outright preventing anyone from doing this, it really puts on display his lack of urgency. i dont think anyone who just got beamed for $15k would wait months and months on end

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- Orders delayed to oblivion by you - > both of our accounts got banned  - > continued delay on your behalf across all orders - > your replacement on all pending orders (not the completed ones)

Thats the corrected series of events 

@Alex & @Liars i believe that ive explained my side thoroughly. i really tried my best to make it as clear as possible as opposed to diverting attention to irrelevant noise

This person registered a cracked.ax account and opened a report just now, right after i fell under pressure coming from another open dispute i have against me (which i am actively resolving by refunding the customer)

To further highlight this person's weak basis for opening this $15k scam report against me, is him waiting for this perfect opportunity almost a year later

While there is no rule outright preventing anyone from doing this, it really puts on display his lack of urgency. i dont think anyone who just got beamed for $15k would wait months and months on end

You’re still ignoring the key point.
I asked multiple times to be added back to the tickets right after the ban. You didn’t. I even made a group with @Alex and @Liars months ago to resolve this. Nothing happened.
If you had re-added me, we wouldn’t be here.
Work was done → ban → no re-add → no access → no payment.
A year later, you still owe me.

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It doesnt matter whether you asked or didnt ask, it was far too late. you caused a lot of damage to the integrity of my advertised timeframes

When you delayed all those orders you effectively compromised them by pissing off my customers (since you ignored them in the order groups), and causing their orders to fail from your lack of updates

Youre quick to skim over the fact that you made that group with @Alex & @Liars MONTHS after these events occured. why would it take you months to make that group? if i really owed you $15k you would have made that group either during these events or straight after

I have no obligation to keep you as a worker since you delayed the work i assigned to you. this is completely separate and distinct from me not paying you for completed orders, do not confuse the two

i dont owe you anything get a job or something idk

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It doesnt matter whether you asked or didnt ask, it was far too late. you caused a lot of damage to the integrity of my advertised timeframes

When you delayed all those orders you effectively compromised them by pissing off my customers (since you ignored them in the order groups), and causing their orders to fail from your lack of updates

Youre quick to skim over the fact that you made that group with @Alex & @Liars MONTHS after these events occured. why would it take you months to make that group? if i really owed you $15k you would have made that group either during these events or straight after

I have no obligation to keep you as a worker since you delayed the work i assigned to you. this is completely separate and distinct from me not paying you for completed orders, do not confuse the two

i dont owe you anything get a job or something idk

@Liars @Alex He’s literally confirming the core issue himself. After my account got banned, he made the decision not to add me back to the tickets. Those are the same tickets I worked on, which means I lost access to the only place where that work could be verified. That’s exactly why I wasn’t paid.
Now he’s trying to hide behind delays and timing, but that doesn’t change anything. Whether he liked my pace or not, that’s a separate issue from payment for work already done. You don’t get to avoid paying by labeling everything as “delayed” after cutting off access.
The “you waited a year” argument is irrelevant too. I tried resolving this before, got nowhere, and now it’s being brought here. Time passing doesn’t cancel a debt.
At the end of the day it’s simple: I did the work, I got banned, he chose not to add me back, I couldn’t access the tickets, and I wasn’t paid. That’s the entire issue.

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No, in your posts, several times, you claimed that you have "completed work", you also mentioned that you have "completed orders" which i owe you payment for

But the only thing i would owe you for are orders that are completed, not solely initiated. meaning the refund has hit the customer's bank account. however, initiated orders arent enough to prompt a payment from me 

I dont owe you payment for orders that were initiated by you and subsequently abandoned, and only when you decided youre ready to work again, im now somehow obligated to add you back

By the time you wanted back in, it was too late. you caused me far too much damage and i wasnt willing to bring you back due to your inconsistency

Proven by youre own words here, and also by your previous actions, youre not really concerned about the integrity of your assigned orders (my service by extension), since you clearly dont really care that they were delayed

Youre only grievance is not being added back to orders you basically abandoned for days, and then weeks on end, but why would i add you back? at that point i had the right to take an executive decision of replacing you

What youre trying to do, and tried to do throughout your posts on this thread is confuse, as well as mix the two: 

1. The supposed completed orders which i supposedly owe you for 

2. Orders started but then abandoned 

Im not hiding behind anything. in refunding, orders are highly time sensitive, and i always have the right to replace you on any order of my choosing if you were delaying it, which is what you were doing 

The good thing about my defense is that i never fell back, or relied on you waiting all this time to open this report. i merely highlighted it as i find it revealing of the fragility and weakness of your case to begin with

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No, in your posts, several times, you claimed that you have "completed work", you also mentioned that you have "completed orders" which i owe you payment for

But the only thing i would owe you for are orders that are completed, not solely initiated. meaning the refund has hit the customer's bank account. however, initiated orders arent enough to prompt a payment from me 

I dont owe you payment for orders that were initiated by you and subsequently abandoned, and only when you decided youre ready to work again, im now somehow obligated to add you back

By the time you wanted back in, it was too late. you caused me far too much damage and i wasnt willing to bring you back due to your inconsistency

Proven by youre own words here, and also by your previous actions, youre not really concerned about the integrity of your assigned orders (my service by extension), since you clearly dont really care that they were delayed

Youre only grievance is not being added back to orders you basically abandoned for days, and then weeks on end, but why would i add you back? at that point i had the right to take an executive decision of replacing you

What youre trying to do, and tried to do throughout your posts on this thread is confuse, as well as mix the two: 

1. The supposed completed orders which i supposedly owe you for 

2. Orders started but then abandoned 

Im not hiding behind anything. in refunding, orders are highly time sensitive, and i always have the right to replace you on any order of my choosing if you were delaying it, which is what you were doing 

The good thing about my defense is that i never fell back, or relied on you waiting all this time to open this report. i merely highlighted it as i find it revealing of the fragility and weakness of your case to begin with

You’re trying to draw a hard line between “completed” and “initiated” to avoid the actual situation.
Not every order instantly jumps from nothing to “refund hit.” There’s a process in between where real work is done. That’s the part you’re ignoring.

You keep calling everything “abandoned,” but that only happened after bans and after I wasn’t being re-added to tickets I already worked on.
You can’t cut someone off from the system, not bring them back, and then label everything they touched as invalid.

Also, your whole argument relies on you deciding what counts as “complete,” while at the same time refusing to restore access or properly review those same orders.
So you’re both:

• the one controlling the system
  
• and the one deciding nothing qualifies
  

That’s not proof, that’s control.

Replacing me on future/pending orders is your decision, sure.
But that has nothing to do with work already done before everything got cut off. You’re mixing those two on purpose.

At the end of the day, you didn’t:

• re-add
  
• properly review
  
• or reconcile
  

You just labeled everything as “abandoned” and moved on.
 That’s why this is still unresolved.