Deal dispute agains't SonicRefs for over 15 000$ in unpaid work

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Scammers Profile Link: https://cracked.st/SonicRefs
Sales Thread: NA 
Amount or Item(s) Scammed: Over 15 000$ in unpaid work
Screenshots of Communication: https://imgur.com/a/7VDwJcW
Additional Information: @Alex and @Liars are aware of the situation. I tried resolving this privately but as I haven't got any reply from the admin here in months I have no other choices but to make this deal dispute and finally get this resolved. I also have screen recording and chat export of everything I said if needed this can be provided.

I was informed that I will work for 5% at a maximum $200 per order if the order goes well. Sonic informed me that I'd look at around 15k in profit which doesn't include tickets completed after his ex worker shadow exited.

I was added to tickets and did the orders as instructed. Throughout from day 1 to end I was paid 1.5k total no where near the 15k expected and beyond.

My worker account was banned twice. I was not added back to tickets where I did the work. I asked numerous times to be readded. I was not added. When I asked they said they didn't either. I gave them more than 3 weeks its seem offly weird for a customer not to readd us to a ticket where we are shown as deleted user.

I gave excuses over and over when they asked me to work on new orders because I was waiting to be added. Why would anyone do more work for free if prior work was not paid. 

This was brought up instead they never added me back and hired a new person and put the blame on me. 

I sent a message adding pressure which went no where. 

I'm asking for you to step in. Not only that sonic readded the prepaid world a partner they classified as a scammer before than re added him saying we spoke... As you might of known the pre paid world exit scammed with false claims of being fedded.

Crypto address for a refund: Will be provided in dm's

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This happened a little under a year ago and he opens this report just NOW to capitalize on the pressure from my other dispute. same thing with the telegram group he made months later where he added @Alex & @Liars. if he had evidence proving he completed the assigned orders, he wouldnt need to wait all this time for his big moment. @Alex i really hope you catch that

OP flooded that telegram group with "proof", none of it proves i didnt pay him for completed work. because i did, and the proof i need is already in those screenshots

I never agreed to upfront payment!!! payment was agreed to be after completion!!!

The $15k hes claiming would be due to him if the orders were finished. hes literally asking to be paid for work he didnt complete

I warned him and emphasized that he needs to update all his orders ASAP!!! instead of doing that he selfishly protested by delaying ALL his orders. he then proceeded to hold them hostage

The orders were poorly started, poorly executed, then he stopped updating them entirely for days onto WEEKS. meanwhile hes casually chatting in refunding groups on telegram while i am getting fucked by scam reports on cracked.ax and customer complaints

The bans hes complaining about are out of my control. my accounts were constantly getting banned... and i lost just as many orders as he did!!!

I added him back to a good amount of orders btw. but hes not even active on the ones hes ALREADY WORKING ON so i replaced him

Anyone familiar with refunding and bank disputes knows you do not get paid $15k for unfinished & abandoned work

OP waited a year and figured itll be his moment if he registers a cracked.ax account right now to open this report! this should be more than enough proof!  and his case should be completely dismissed!

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This happened a little under a year ago and he opens this report just NOW to capitalize on the pressure from my other dispute. same thing with the telegram group he made months later where he added @Alex & @Liars. if he had evidence proving he completed the assigned orders, he wouldnt need to wait all this time for his big moment. @Alex i really hope you catch that

OP flooded that telegram group with "proof", none of it proves i didnt pay him for completed work. because i did, and the proof i need is already in those screenshots

I never agreed to upfront payment!!! payment was agreed to be after completion!!!

The $15k hes claiming would be due to him if the orders were finished. hes literally asking to be paid for work he didnt complete

I warned him and emphasized that he needs to update all his orders ASAP!!! instead of doing that he selfishly protested by delaying ALL his orders. he then proceeded to hold them hostage

The orders were poorly started, poorly executed, then he stopped updating them entirely for days onto WEEKS. meanwhile hes casually chatting in refunding groups on telegram while i am getting fucked by scam reports on cracked.ax and customer complaints

The bans hes complaining about are out of my control. my accounts were constantly getting banned... and i lost just as many orders as he did!!!

I added him back to a good amount of orders btw. but hes not even active on the ones hes ALREADY WORKING ON so i replaced him

Anyone familiar with refunding and bank disputes knows you do not get paid $15k for unfinished & abandoned work

OP waited a year and figured itll be his moment if he registers a cracked.ax account right now to open this report! this should be more than enough proof!  and his case should be completely dismissed!

It doesn’t matter if this happened a year ago, ten years ago, or yesterday. The issue still exists and it needs to be resolved.

I attempted to resolve this privately, but that wasn’t possible. @Alex Telegram accounts kept getting banned, and it’s well known at this point that reaching @Liars has become extremely difficult. He hasn’t replied in months, so going public was the only option left.

I did complete the work. The real issue is that I was never added back to the corresponding orders afterward. You have a system in place that allows you to reassign or add someone back to tickets, and you had the ability to do so, but you chose not to.

Because of that, I had no way to access those orders or prove completion within your system, which directly resulted in me not getting paid for work that was already done.

TLDR for staff: Work was completed → my account got banned → I was never added back to the tickets → therefore I couldn’t access them or get paid. I’m asking @Liars to add me back to the relevant tickets. Once I’m added, it will be clear that the work was completed.

At the end of the day, this isn’t about timing or excuses, it’s about completed work that was never paid because I was intentionally left without access.

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I have no reason to not pay you for completed orders. if you actually completed x amount of orders, i would just pay you and close those out as soon as i could

Any order you did complete (very few), and were not paid for are ones that i was banned from and didnt get paid for myself. i am not in control of that and i was also essentially scammed from those orders. because again, many customers simply didnt reach out after the targeted bans!

Also this doesnt make much sense... if an order was completed by you, what would i add another worker there for? whats the point of that? if an order was completed i would just ask customer for payment and either leave the group or it just dies out. youre bringing up these points that dont make sense!

@Liars needs to add you back to what? are you delusional? this happened over half a year ago, where the hell am i gonna find those orders that dont even exist to begin with? the orders you are referencing are ones that i was banned from and no longer have access to

The orders you were replaced on were orders that were not completed, and the reason you were replaced there because you were slow. that is the main reason for your replacement on those orders

Im not scamming you by replacing you on orders that you were slow on. again, this doesnt make any sense, if you were actually doing the work you were supposed to be doing why would i replace you? why would i remove you from those orders?

the ones i actually replaced you from were orders that you werent updating. after i saw this, i basically replaced you on all of them. and there is no logical reason for me to keep you there

If i sat idle while all those orders where getting delayed, i myself would face the consequences on cracked.ax and my reputation would take a hit in the refunding community for all those delayed orders

For orders you completed, and where the customer actually DM me about it on the post ban, new account, then i would have paid you for those orders

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I have no reason to not pay you for completed orders. if you actually completed x amount of orders, i would just pay you and close those out as soon as i could

Any order you did complete (very few), and were not paid for are ones that i was banned from and didnt get paid for myself. i am not in control of that and i was also essentially scammed from those orders. because again, many customers simply didnt reach out after the targeted bans!

Also this doesnt make much sense... if an order was completed by you, what would i add another worker there for? whats the point of that? if an order was completed i would just ask customer for payment and either leave the group or it just dies out. youre bringing up these points that dont make sense!

@Liars needs to add you back to what? are you delusional? this happened over half a year ago, where the hell am i gonna find those orders that dont even exist to begin with? the orders you are referencing are ones that i was banned from and no longer have access to

The orders you were replaced on were orders that were not completed, and the reason you were replaced there because you were slow. that is the main reason for your replacement on those orders

Im not scamming you by replacing you on orders that you were slow on. again, this doesnt make any sense, if you were actually doing the work you were supposed to be doing why would i replace you? why would i remove you from those orders?

the ones i actually replaced you from were orders that you werent updating. after i saw this, i basically replaced you on all of them. and there is no logical reason for me to keep you there

If i sat idle while all those orders where getting delayed, i myself would face the consequences on cracked.ax and my reputation would take a hit in the refunding community for all those delayed orders

For orders you completed, and where the customer actually DM me about it on the post ban, new account, then i would have paid you for those orders

You’re contradicting yourself multiple times here.

1. “I have no reason not to pay you”
   You literally didn’t pay me for completed work. Intent doesn’t matter, outcome does. Work was done → no payment → that’s the issue.
   
2. “I was banned so I didn’t get paid either”
   That’s not my problem. I completed the work on my end. Whether you got paid or not is your side of the risk. You’re the one running the orders and managing clients, not me.
   
3. “If orders were completed, why would I add another worker”
   You wouldn’t need to if you handled things properly. The issue is you had the ability to add me back or track completions, and you didn’t. That’s on you, not me.
   
4. “Those orders don’t exist / I can’t access them”
   That doesn’t erase the work that was done. Just because you lost access doesn’t mean the obligation disappears. The timeline is irrelevant, the work still happened.
   
5. “You were slow so I replaced you”
   That applies to some orders, not all. We’re talking about the ones that were actually completed. You’re mixing both situations to avoid paying for the completed ones.
   
6. “Customers didn’t reach out after bans”
   Again, not my responsibility. My role was to complete the work, which I did. Your system failing after that doesn’t void payment.
   

TLDR for staff:
Work was completed → account got banned → I was never added back to those tickets → I never got paid. That’s it.
 
@Liars can you please clarify this one simple thing:
If work is completed before a ban, does the worker still get paid or not?
Because right now he’s dodging instead of answering that.

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I said i have no reason to not pay you for orders you completed, and its true because any order you completed, i paid you for it

We are working on telegram so it is your problem as well. if you completed orders, and both our accounts that were in that order group were banned, i effectively lost all record of it

Meaning, i didnt get paid for it! i lost the customer contact, and lost track of those "completed orders" (that you have no proof of)!

You never specified or showed proof for any of these completed orders btw, and for all i know they could be less than 5 or none at all! here im referring to the orders where the customer didnt reach out to me, which means i didnt receive payment for it (no record or log of order because of account bans)

Anyways, i have a strict basis to this day with my orders and i have a low tolerance for slow work. any worker of mine that isnt up to the standard required to work with me is quickly replaced, even quicker than i had replaced you

At the end of the day you never even showed any of these "completed orders" because they dont really exist. again, any order that i was added back to, which you completed, i would have added you back and paid you for it. or i would have just told you about it and paid you for them 

Youre accusing me based on a false series of events that follows as such:

- You completed order -> both of us get banned

- Im added back to order -> add a different worker (even though the order is "completed")

Your line of reasoning and the series of events just dont make sense. it doesnt make sense for me to replace you on an order that was already completed. a worker would have nothing to do in that order if it was truly completed as you claim

You also have 0 proof for any of that. the only thing you have attached to this report is our discussions in DMs, which is not proof of the completed orders

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I said i have no reason to not pay you for orders you completed, and its true because any order you completed, i paid you for it

We are working on telegram so it is your problem as well. if you completed orders, and both our accounts that were in that order group were banned, i effectively lost all record of it

Meaning, i didnt get paid for it! i lost the customer contact, and lost track of those "completed orders" (that you have no proof of)!

You never specified or showed proof for any of these completed orders btw, and for all i know they could be less than 5 or none at all! here im referring to the orders where the customer didnt reach out to me, which means i didnt receive payment for it (no record or log of order because of account bans)

Anyways, i have a strict basis to this day with my orders and i have a low tolerance for slow work. any worker of mine that isnt up to the standard required to work with me is quickly replaced, even quicker than i had replaced you

At the end of the day you never even showed any of these "completed orders" because they dont really exist. again, any order that i was added back to, which you completed, i would have added you back and paid you for it. or i would have just told you about it and paid you for them 

Youre accusing me based on a false series of events that follows as such:

- You completed order -> both of us get banned

- Im added back to order -> add a different worker (even though the order is "completed")

Your line of reasoning and the series of events just dont make sense. it doesnt make sense for me to replace you on an order that was already completed. a worker would have nothing to do in that order if it was truly completed as you claim

You also have 0 proof for any of that. the only thing you have attached to this report is our discussions in DMs, which is not proof of the completed orders

You’re still contradicting yourself, and your own words prove it.

1. You already admitted there were unpaid completed orders
   You said:
   “Any order you did complete (very few), and were not paid for…”
   

That confirms:

• There were completed orders
  
• And they were not paid
  

So the “I paid everything” argument is already false.

1. You’re downplaying it with “could be less than 5”
   You said:
   “for all I know they could be less than 5 or none at all”
   

That makes no sense for two reasons:

• You own the ticket system.
  You have access, logs, and visibility. You’re the one running everything.
  You’re acting like you have no idea, when you’re literally the only one who can verify it.
  
• Even if it was 1–5 orders, that’s still unpaid work.
  Acting like it’s acceptable not to pay because it’s “only a few” is absurd.
  Unpaid is unpaid, whether it’s 1 order or 50.
  

1. “I didn’t get paid either”
   Not my responsibility.
   I completed the work. You manage clients and payments, not me.
   
2. You contradict yourself about proof
   You admit:
   

• Accounts got banned
  
• Records were lost
  

Then say:

• “You have no proof”
  

That’s a contradiction. The lack of proof is caused by the exact situation you’re using as an excuse.

1. You ignored me asking to be added back
   I showed screenshots of me asking to be added back to those tickets.
   You had the ability to do it. You chose not to.
   

If you had:

• I could verify completions
  
• I could follow up
  
• I could get paid
  

You avoided that, then used “no proof” as your defense.

1. You’re mixing scenarios to dodge the issue
   

• Yes, I was replaced on some slow orders
  
• That has nothing to do with completed orders before bans
  

You keep blending both to avoid addressing the unpaid ones.

Pattern of behavior:

• I worked for you → banned → “not my fault, no payment”
  
• Your worker scams a client for $3000+ → “not my fault”
  
• Your prepaid partner exits → “not my fault”
  

There’s a consistent pattern of avoiding responsibility whenever something goes wrong.

Also:
A large portion of your “mentorship” is directly copied from nonteg.
If denied, proof can be provided.

TLDR for staff:

• He admitted there were completed but unpaid orders
  
• He downplays it as “very few” instead of denying it
  
• He owns the system and can verify, but pretends he can’t
  
• I asked to be added back (proof shown), he didn’t
  
• Now he uses “no proof” as justificati