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SonicRefs holding payment hostage

by FrozenBoobs3 - 26 October, 2026 - 05:48 PM
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Scammers Profile Link: https://cracked.st/SonicRefs
Sales Thread: https://cracked.st/Thread-Supreme-%E2%86...-%E2%9F%81
Amount or Item(s) Scammed: $334
Screenshots of Communication: https://t.me/+AVXyJo-GvKo1NWUx
Additional Information: 
The refund process with them began on Oct 12, I paid a bit over $334 ltc upfront (because I didn't have saved record of our past deals which is a big mistake). It seemed like everything was going fine, though updates were minimal and have to be constantly requested. There are multiple issues, one is that nothing has happened in an entire week, which they keep claiming it will, and now today is the last day for me to return the product to the store for a refund. As seen in the screenshots it went from 1-2 days, to 5-7 business days, to one of them saying they flat out don't know what to do because tracking hasn't updated, and then to 1 more day which is today. And to no surprise it still has not changed. 

The second major issue is the conflicting/false information on their website. Next to every store they offer their services to is a range of how long it will likely take, in this scenario its 3-14 days. But then if you scroll down (which most customers are not doing), you see in the TOS that the range displayed is actually just for show. It means nothing. Sonic cannot be allowed to operate his service in this way otherwise he will try to weasel through deals with people as seen with his prepaid fiascos over the last year.

Based on his DWC status alone he should not be allowed to take payments up front because that is all the leverage a potential customer has within deals with him. 

I have mentioned multiple times that if status has not changed and there are no real updates by today that I will be returning the product to the store, and I also made it clear, at least I thought, that I was expecting my money back in this scenario that this happened. To which they remained silent, now I see the silence was because they planned on keeping my funds lol. I highly suspect they've known its not going anywhere and status is not going to update because of the fact he keeps mentioning that if it fails they can just do a charge back via my bank. Which I have also made it clear I have no interest in doing. 
 
I would have a lot more confidence in waiting past the return date (today) if the circumstances weren't as such. Mind you I've had plenty success with his services in the past on GAP, Google, Apple, Samsung, but it just is not working out this time. 

I'm sure he'll reference some portion of his TOS that probably reads "we can keep your money no matter what happens" but that's another issue with is services. Putting in a clause that states you can basically just rip people off doesn't actually allow you to do that without some sort of consequence lol, especially when you advertise on a site like this. The TOS needs a rigid set of conditions in which he would have the right to do that, and right now those conditions are not present. 

I really didn't want to do this but I suspected I would have to, I don't want any trouble. You guys are just being a bit weird about everything this time around :/

Sonic claimed on Friday 10/23 that it was 100% going to update today, I will give it until the end of the FedEx business day to test that claim. But once again, as a "business", your word is really bond.

Crypto address for a refund: MQkBm8KnGoCDocgtGK2RYRvxZVffMiynoc
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(This post was last modified: 26 October, 2026 - 11:57 PM by FrozenBoobs3.)
https://cracked.st/Thread-bibi-pls-get-m...-sonicrefs

Funnily a very similar situation happened here. He did FTID but instead of it never updating it flat out did not work, and then he tried to defer to a charge back. Which in my case I believe I've made it clear I have no interest in. 
Honestly, despite my positive history with him, if I had seen all these DD beforehand I definitely would have avoided this service this go round. 

@Alex

Update: Its roughly end of the business day, status is not updated, and I've returned the item to the store. No response from Sonic about refunding my payment I made to him since earlier (I think there was bit of misunderstanding earlier, unsure, will update).
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(This post was last modified: 27 October, 2026 - 08:42 PM by FrozenBoobs3.)
Update: I've since returned the item to the store, no word from Sonic on refunding my initial payment of $334, and for what its worth still no update on the tracking which he claimed would 100% be updated yesterday.

(26 October, 2026 - 05:48 PM)Leechometer Wrote: Show More
System bot message: @SonicRefs (SonicRefs) has been notified about this dispute via private messages and has 24hours to reply in this thread

Bit over 24 hours and no correspondence from Sonic in regards to refunding me $334, FedEx status, etc. His "worker" has been reading messages but nothing meaningful.
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This is a bump

@Liars @Winter @Alex

Can someone chime in on this. Pls n Thx
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(This post was last modified: 28 October, 2026 - 01:17 PM by FrozenBoobs3.)
Update: They started another attempt to do whatever method they did the first time after it failed, and they started the second attempt without telling me. Even after I made it clear I was returning the product on Monday, because I was certain it was not going anywhere. This is the kind of deception and slyness I mentioned in my original post, which Sonic has a long history of. Its going on 48 hours, can a mod please chime in and instruct him to refund me $334 ltc.

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I've made the communication screenshots easier to access as well
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I apologize for posting in another DD, but feel this could be useful information and context.

We develop and manage sonic's core infrastructure. We haven't heard anything from him in over 4 days now. We hope all is well with him, and will will not speculate the reason of his absence until we receive further information.

I can ensure you that sonic is a good client of ours. He pays his bills in timely fashion, and he certainly would not "exit scam" or scam you for such a menial amount of money. At this time, due to the unexpected and prolonged absence , we are waiting to hear back from him with clarification.

Rest assured he has not scammed you and you will be reimbursed in full, assuming he is alive and well.

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