Additional Information: Lil bro says "all sales final no refund," which is just a phrase that says that the balance isn't guaranteed even if it has been "live checked."
I used the methods on how to use, but it fails on Venmo, Stripe for checkout, GoFundMe, and buymeacoffee, etc.
Crypto address for a refund: Given upon resolution.
Before any purchase is made, our terms are fully visible and must be accepted. These terms clearly state that results depend on a number of external factors including your device, your account, your location, and the platform you are using. All of this is outlined because it is the reality of how the product works. He saw all of this, he accepted all of this, and he made his purchase. No one made him do that.
Once he got access, he had everything the service includes. The methods we provide are actively working for a large number of our customers, many of whom have been with us for a long time. They come back because it works.
He tried a handful of methods. When those particular ones did not give him the result he was looking for, rather than adjusting his approach, trying a different platform, a different amount, or any of the other available options, he stopped. He did not take the time to go through everything that was available to him. Instead, after a very short amount of time, he went straight to filing a dispute.
That is not the behavior of someone who genuinely tried to make the product work. That is the behavior of someone who came in with the intention of buying, testing it briefly, and the moment it did not go his way, looking for a way to get his money back. Our policy exists in writing specifically because this pattern is not new to us.
He got exactly what was advertised. Full access, nothing missing, nothing held back. The service is working for the people actually using it. The fact that a couple of methods did not click for one person does not mean the service failed. It means he never intended to put in the effort.
He agreed to the terms. He got what he paid for. He just wants his money back, and this is the route he chose to take.
Our policies exist because with the number of customers we serve, things need to be clear and consistent for everybody. They were available before he bought, and he agreed to them willingly.
OP27 September, 2026 - 08:22 PM(This post was last modified: 27 September, 2026 - 08:30 PM by 49abc.)
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(27 September, 2026 - 02:14 PM)SonicRefs Wrote: Show More
Before any purchase is made, our terms are fully visible and must be accepted. These terms clearly state that results depend on a number of external factors including your device, your account, your location, and the platform you are using. All of this is outlined because it is the reality of how the product works. He saw all of this, he accepted all of this, and he made his purchase. No one made him do that.
Once he got access, he had everything the service includes. The methods we provide are actively working for a large number of our customers, many of whom have been with us for a long time. They come back because it works.
He tried a handful of methods. When those particular ones did not give him the result he was looking for, rather than adjusting his approach, trying a different platform, a different amount, or any of the other available options, he stopped. He did not take the time to go through everything that was available to him. Instead, after a very short amount of time, he went straight to filing a dispute.
That is not the behavior of someone who genuinely tried to make the product work. That is the behavior of someone who came in with the intention of buying, testing it briefly, and the moment it did not go his way, looking for a way to get his money back. Our policy exists in writing specifically because this pattern is not new to us.
He got exactly what was advertised. Full access, nothing missing, nothing held back. The service is working for the people actually using it. The fact that a couple of methods did not click for one person does not mean the service failed. It means he never intended to put in the effort.
He agreed to the terms. He got what he paid for. He just wants his money back, and this is the route he chose to take.
Our policies exist because with the number of customers we serve, things need to be clear and consistent for everybody. They were available before he bought, and he agreed to them willingly.
Your characterization of what happened is inaccurate.
I did not simply try one or two methods and immediately file a dispute. I attempted the options that were made available to me through your Telegram bot, using both my phone and my main computer. I also attempted multiple transaction amounts, ranging from approximately $5 to $200, and the attempts were declined.
I went through the methods that were actually available to me. After those methods failed to produce the represented result, I was ultimately instructed to contact the actual seller directly. That is important because your own response now claims that I failed to make sufficient use of your service, while at the same time your process redirected me to another party to resolve the underlying problem.
Your statement that I "never intended to put in the effort" is speculation and is contradicted by the multiple attempts I made before disputing the transaction. The issue is not simply that I disliked the results or changed my mind. My position is that I attempted the provided methods and the product/service did not function as represented.
You also repeatedly point to your terms and refund policy. I understand that terms were presented before purchase, but simply having a no-refund or limited-results policy does not by itself establish that the product or service delivered what was represented in this particular transaction. The relevant question is what was advertised, what was delivered, what troubleshooting or methods I attempted, and whether the purchased service actually performed as represented.
You state that "he got exactly what was advertised." I dispute that characterization. Receiving access to a Telegram bot or instructions is not the same issue as whether the underlying purchased service operated as represented. I attempted the available methods, they were unsuccessful, and I was then directed to contact the seller rather than having the problem resolved through your service.
(27 September, 2026 - 02:14 PM)SonicRefs Wrote: Show More
Before any purchase is made, our terms are fully visible and must be accepted. These terms clearly state that results depend on a number of external factors including your device, your account, your location, and the platform you are using. All of this is outlined because it is the reality of how the product works. He saw all of this, he accepted all of this, and he made his purchase. No one made him do that.
Once he got access, he had everything the service includes. The methods we provide are actively working for a large number of our customers, many of whom have been with us for a long time. They come back because it works.
He tried a handful of methods. When those particular ones did not give him the result he was looking for, rather than adjusting his approach, trying a different platform, a different amount, or any of the other available options, he stopped. He did not take the time to go through everything that was available to him. Instead, after a very short amount of time, he went straight to filing a dispute.
That is not the behavior of someone who genuinely tried to make the product work. That is the behavior of someone who came in with the intention of buying, testing it briefly, and the moment it did not go his way, looking for a way to get his money back. Our policy exists in writing specifically because this pattern is not new to us.
He got exactly what was advertised. Full access, nothing missing, nothing held back. The service is working for the people actually using it. The fact that a couple of methods did not click for one person does not mean the service failed. It means he never intended to put in the effort.
He agreed to the terms. He got what he paid for. He just wants his money back, and this is the route he chose to take.
Our policies exist because with the number of customers we serve, things need to be clear and consistent for everybody. They were available before he bought, and he agreed to them willingly.
Also, while responding to these statements today, I checked the Telegram contact that you told me to contact for the support representative after the provided methods and product were not working. That username now returns ““@s0nicrussiat found.” Fortunately, I preserved screenshots of the conversation before that happened. You specifically told me, “DM @s0nicrussia for it if nothing working” and then clarified, “I just handle support he is part of the prepaids team.” This directly contradicts the claim that I "simply gave up without going through the available options." I attempted the methods provided to me, reported that they were not working, and then you redirected me to another individual involved with the prepaid product. That contact is now unavailable under the username I was given. I am not going to speculate as to whether the account was deleted, renamed, or otherwise made unavailable. The relevant fact is that I followed the support instructions I was given, preserved the evidence, and the person I was directed to contact can no longer be reached through the username your support provided. So the claim that I “never intended to put in the effort” is simply unsupported by the documented conversation. The screenshots show the opposite: I attempted the provided options, reported the failures, and followed the escalation path to the "prepaids support team" you gave me.
OP27 September, 2026 - 08:33 PM(This post was last modified: 27 September, 2026 - 08:34 PM by 49abc.)
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(27 September, 2026 - 02:14 PM)SonicRefs Wrote: Show More
Before any purchase is made, our terms are fully visible and must be accepted. These terms clearly state that results depend on a number of external factors including your device, your account, your location, and the platform you are using. All of this is outlined because it is the reality of how the product works. He saw all of this, he accepted all of this, and he made his purchase. No one made him do that.
Once he got access, he had everything the service includes. The methods we provide are actively working for a large number of our customers, many of whom have been with us for a long time. They come back because it works.
He tried a handful of methods. When those particular ones did not give him the result he was looking for, rather than adjusting his approach, trying a different platform, a different amount, or any of the other available options, he stopped. He did not take the time to go through everything that was available to him. Instead, after a very short amount of time, he went straight to filing a dispute.
That is not the behavior of someone who genuinely tried to make the product work. That is the behavior of someone who came in with the intention of buying, testing it briefly, and the moment it did not go his way, looking for a way to get his money back. Our policy exists in writing specifically because this pattern is not new to us.
He got exactly what was advertised. Full access, nothing missing, nothing held back. The service is working for the people actually using it. The fact that a couple of methods did not click for one person does not mean the service failed. It means he never intended to put in the effort.
He agreed to the terms. He got what he paid for. He just wants his money back, and this is the route he chose to take.
Our policies exist because with the number of customers we serve, things need to be clear and consistent for everybody. They were available before he bought, and he agreed to them willingly.
After I contacted the prepaid support member as instructed, that person subsequently changed their Telegram username and blocked me sometime not to long ago. Their account now displays “last seen a long time ago,” which is Telegram’s typical blocked-user status, and our prior conversation is no longer available to me. Fortunately, I preserved screenshots showing that I was directed to this person for support and that I attempted to resolve the issue before the communication disappeared.
Which can be found here:
(27 September, 2026 - 08:33 PM)49abc Wrote: Show More
(27 September, 2026 - 02:14 PM)SonicRefs Wrote: Show More
Before any purchase is made, our terms are fully visible and must be accepted. These terms clearly state that results depend on a number of external factors including your device, your account, your location, and the platform you are using. All of this is outlined because it is the reality of how the product works. He saw all of this, he accepted all of this, and he made his purchase. No one made him do that.
Once he got access, he had everything the service includes. The methods we provide are actively working for a large number of our customers, many of whom have been with us for a long time. They come back because it works.
He tried a handful of methods. When those particular ones did not give him the result he was looking for, rather than adjusting his approach, trying a different platform, a different amount, or any of the other available options, he stopped. He did not take the time to go through everything that was available to him. Instead, after a very short amount of time, he went straight to filing a dispute.
That is not the behavior of someone who genuinely tried to make the product work. That is the behavior of someone who came in with the intention of buying, testing it briefly, and the moment it did not go his way, looking for a way to get his money back. Our policy exists in writing specifically because this pattern is not new to us.
He got exactly what was advertised. Full access, nothing missing, nothing held back. The service is working for the people actually using it. The fact that a couple of methods did not click for one person does not mean the service failed. It means he never intended to put in the effort.
He agreed to the terms. He got what he paid for. He just wants his money back, and this is the route he chose to take.
Our policies exist because with the number of customers we serve, things need to be clear and consistent for everybody. They were available before he bought, and he agreed to them willingly.
After I contacted the prepaid support member as instructed, that person subsequently changed their Telegram username and blocked me sometime not to long ago. Their account now displays “last seen a long time ago,” which is Telegram’s typical blocked-user status, and our prior conversation is no longer available to me. Fortunately, I preserved screenshots showing that I was directed to this person for support and that I attempted to resolve the issue before the communication disappeared.
Which can be found here:
He was told clearly before paying that results depend on things we can't control once it's delivered, it wasn't hidden anywhere, it was right there before checkout, he saw it and still decided to go ahead, that's fair, it was his call to make,
what doesn't sit right is calling it a scam now, a scam is when you pay and get nothing or get something different from what was promised, that's not what happened here, he got exactly what was advertised, it was delivered, and it's the same product a lot of people in our community are using right now and getting real results with, on top of that we actually went out of our way for him, we offered him manual help even though that was never part of what we advertise, nobody gets that by default, we did it because we wanted to help him make it work, so saying we just took his money and disappeared isn't true at all,
about us changing names, that has nothing to do with him, by that point he had already taken matters into his own hands, changing how we communicate isn't hiding from anyone, it was for our own personal reasons and we're still here answering this right now, if we were hiding we would call his story "cap" and trying arguing when he opened this above, we're not saying his experience was fake or that he's not frustrated, we get it, it didn't work out the way he wanted and that's disappointing, but something not working for him doesn't make it a scam, it just means it didn't work for him, and that was always a possibility he was told about.
that's everything from our side, we're not going to keep arguing back and forth with anything else he says, we've said our piece, he was told the risks before paying, he got what was advertised, we offered him extra help that wasn't even part of the service.
OP27 September, 2026 - 10:01 PM(This post was last modified: 28 September, 2026 - 06:54 AM by 49abc.)
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(27 September, 2026 - 09:20 PM)SonicRefs Wrote: Show More
(27 September, 2026 - 08:33 PM)49abc Wrote: Show More
(27 September, 2026 - 02:14 PM)SonicRefs Wrote: Show More
Before any purchase is made, our terms are fully visible and must be accepted. These terms clearly state that results depend on a number of external factors including your device, your account, your location, and the platform you are using. All of this is outlined because it is the reality of how the product works. He saw all of this, he accepted all of this, and he made his purchase. No one made him do that.
Once he got access, he had everything the service includes. The methods we provide are actively working for a large number of our customers, many of whom have been with us for a long time. They come back because it works.
He tried a handful of methods. When those particular ones did not give him the result he was looking for, rather than adjusting his approach, trying a different platform, a different amount, or any of the other available options, he stopped. He did not take the time to go through everything that was available to him. Instead, after a very short amount of time, he went straight to filing a dispute.
That is not the behavior of someone who genuinely tried to make the product work. That is the behavior of someone who came in with the intention of buying, testing it briefly, and the moment it did not go his way, looking for a way to get his money back. Our policy exists in writing specifically because this pattern is not new to us.
He got exactly what was advertised. Full access, nothing missing, nothing held back. The service is working for the people actually using it. The fact that a couple of methods did not click for one person does not mean the service failed. It means he never intended to put in the effort.
He agreed to the terms. He got what he paid for. He just wants his money back, and this is the route he chose to take.
Our policies exist because with the number of customers we serve, things need to be clear and consistent for everybody. They were available before he bought, and he agreed to them willingly.
After I contacted the prepaid support member as instructed, that person subsequently changed their Telegram username and blocked me sometime not to long ago. Their account now displays “last seen a long time ago,” which is Telegram’s typical blocked-user status, and our prior conversation is no longer available to me. Fortunately, I preserved screenshots showing that I was directed to this person for support and that I attempted to resolve the issue before the communication disappeared.
Which can be found here:
He was told clearly before paying that results depend on things we can't control once it's delivered, it wasn't hidden anywhere, it was right there before checkout, he saw it and still decided to go ahead, that's fair, it was his call to make,
what doesn't sit right is calling it a scam now, a scam is when you pay and get nothing or get something different from what was promised, that's not what happened here, he got exactly what was advertised, it was delivered, and it's the same product a lot of people in our community are using right now and getting real results with, on top of that we actually went out of our way for him, we offered him manual help even though that was never part of what we advertise, nobody gets that by default, we did it because we wanted to help him make it work, so saying we just took his money and disappeared isn't true at all,
about us changing names, that has nothing to do with him, by that point he had already taken matters into his own hands, changing how we communicate isn't hiding from anyone, it was for our own personal reasons and we're still here answering this right now, if we were hiding we would call his story "cap" and trying arguing when he opened this above, we're not saying his experience was fake or that he's not frustrated, we get it, it didn't work out the way he wanted and that's disappointing, but something not working for him doesn't make it a scam, it just means it didn't work for him, and that was always a possibility he was told about.
that's everything from our side, we're not going to keep arguing back and forth with anything else he says, we've said our piece, he was told the risks before paying, he got what was advertised, we offered him extra help that wasn't even part of the service.
Your response still leaves out the actual sequence of events.
I was not simply told there was some possibility of varied results, tried one thing, and then immediately demanded my money back. I attempted numerous methods provided through your Telegram FAQ/Methods tab, used more than one device, and attempted multiple transaction amounts ranging from roughly $5 to $200. Those attempts were declined, some even noting from the card issuer and some even noting as "declined."
When the provided methods continued not to work, you told me: “DM @s0nicrussia for it if nothing working”
and then clarified: “I just handle support he is part of the prepaids team.”
I followed that instruction and contacted the prepaid support member directly in an attempt to get the issue resolved. It was never resolved.
So the statement that you “went out of your way” and offered manual help does not change the underlying problem. I used the support process you directed me to use, escalated the issue to the person you identified as part of the prepaid team, and I still did not receive a working resolution.
You also keep saying I “got exactly what was advertised.” That is the point in dispute. Receiving access to a non-working card, instructions, or a contact person is not the same thing as the underlying product or service actually functioning as represented. My complaint is not that I was denied just a refund. My complaint is that I followed the provided methods and support instructions, and the product did not perform as represented.
As for the account change, the person I was directed to contact previously used @s0nicrussia and now appears under a different username. The account also now displays “last seen a long time ago” to me, and our prior conversation is no longer visible on my side. I preserved screenshots of the referral and communications before that occurred.
Whether you describe that change as being for “personal reasons” does not alter the documented timeline: I reported that the methods were not working, you redirected me to the prepaid support member, I contacted that person, and the problem remained unresolved.
I am also not relying solely on the word “scam” to make my case. The dispute can be reviewed on the evidence: what was represented, what was purchased, what I received, the multiple attempts I made, the declined results, the troubleshooting instructions I followed, the referral to prepaid support, and the fact that the issue was never resolved.
If your position is that the service was fully provided and functioning as represented, then provide the actual records showing which specific method successfully worked for my purchase, how the prepaid support member resolved the issue, and what additional working option you claim was available to me that I failed to use.
The documented history does not support the claim that I simply tried something briefly, gave up, and filed a dispute. I repeatedly attempted to make it work and followed your own escalation process before the matter remained unresolved.
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